‘I think what’s missing from the whole discussion is this notion of the unquestioned primacy of the economy. We have created this god and I think it’s a bit of a false god given the widening divergence between the top one percent and people less advantaged. Between people who are well-served by the existing system and Indigenous people.
‘We created this economy; we can actually change it. To say something will hurt the economy is not an excuse to just back off. Particularly when the world’s leading scientists, time after time, are telling us that the existing system is unsustainable.’